ENGvsRSA: The Premiere

Hello Gentlemen,


I’m premiering this at 1700 BST this afternoon, just in time for copious amounts of beer.




Would be a privilege to have you on there, with the chat function so discussions/mini chat room can be had, and you can relive my pain and quite possibly yours too!


Hope you guys are keeping safe,


cheers all,



“Outs” are 2x “ins” (clubs ranked!)

Since our last thread was getting old and long I thought I’d start a new one.

This post is based on the “ins and outs” wikipedia page, which is pretty up to date  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2020%E2%80%9321_Premiership_Rugby_transfers. Obviously it’s a fast moving picture this so no doubt things will have changed by the time I submit this.

The first and most obvious thing is the extent to which there are far more “outs” than “ins”, nearly double by my count – 116 “outs” to 60 “ins”. Assuming an average salary of £100k per player that’s well over £5m of costs per year out of the English game right there and I suspect once you account for other costs of employment (employers NI, insurance, kit etc) it’s more like double that.

Anyway, to create a bit of “debate”, I’ve decided to rank the off-season transfers of each club, the overall score is a composite of the following (0-5 in each case):

  1. Quality in v quality out (triple weighting)
  2. Stability (double weighting)
  3. Academy promotion
  4. Retention of  homegrown talent

In the event of a tie, positions ranked by the QIvQO score, then stability and so on.

The best results would be obtained by clubs who recruited a small number (preferably only 2) of outside players who were better than players departing in similar positions whilst also promoting lustily from their academy and not losing any homegrown club players.

The results are in as follows:

  1. Bristol. Total: 24 (QIvQO 5, Stability 1, Academy 3, Homegrown 4)
  2. Bath 24 (4, 4, 1, 3)
  3. Sale 24 (3, 5, 0, 5)
  4. Worcester 24 (2, 4, 5, 5)
  5. London Irish 23 (3, 5, 0, 4)
  6. Northampton 23 (3, 4, 2, 4)
  7. Wasps 23 (2, 5, 2, 5)
  8. Newcastle 22 (3, 5, 0, 3)
  9. Exeter 18 (3, 3, 0, 3)
  10. Gloucester* 16 (1, 4, 1, 4)
  11. Quins 8 (0, 4, 0, 0)
  12. Leicester* 5 (0, 0, 0, 5)

* Gloucester included 3 departing players announced today. Leicester not including rumoured loss of Veianu, but it wouldn’t have made any difference.


  • Likely to change (especially expect Glous to recruit now)
  • Not a score of how good a squad is. If a squad was already brilliant before, a mid-ranking wouldn’t matter much.
  • Only my opinion, so…

I might update for final squads when/if the season finally starts, depending on how much abuse I get for this.

Top international coach for Glos and World Rugby calendar vote

The man who started the Leinster golden era and took a team from nowhere to the RWC final has been linked to Glos. Are we overjoyed?….


Meanwhile on 30 June there will be votes on the new global calendar and an international window this year from October. T14 understandably don’t want to play through the summer, but want a Spring world club cup every four years.

For me rugby is a winter sport, especially in a hot place like southern France or South Africa. The key for me is having test windows without club matches in the middle.


Super Saturday Live

live rugby is back… with near capacity crowds! Two games a weekend for ten weeks, same times each week. Expect rust this week, but fast, high quality rugby most games. Enjoy!

Highlanders v Chiefs 8.05 Saturday

Aaron Mauger v Warren Gatland. Go the mighty Chiefs! No Cane, Moli, Harris, To’oavo or Ardron but Weber, ALB, McKenzie and the benched  Cruden star in an exceptional back line.

Blues v Canes 4.00 and 10.00 Sunday

Beauden at fullback on long awaited debut , Reiko at centre, Marchant left right out unfortunately. Lots of All Blacks, but will the AuckLanders flatter to deceive yet again? Ardie also makes his first start since Japan, but on the bench, while Jordie isn’t fit to face his traitorous bro.

It’s War

Thought it was time to separate this out from the Burgess thread because it now looks like all out war between the clubs and the players.

Whilst understanding the need for the game to cut its cloth, this does look like pretty despicable opportunism by the clubs in holding a gun to players’ heads, especially those not out of contract.

Difficult to see this ending prettily. Depending on your generation I’d guess either a Boomer outcome or a Snowflake outcome – and as I’ve predicted for a while an early end to the season.




Premiership Rugby Returns

“The clubs will need to satisfy a number of requirements to start stage one as we continue the huge amount of work being undertaken to enable a safe return to training,” said professional game board chairman Chris Booy.


Premiership clubs also agree to Lord Myners review


Wibble Rugby: The latest Video/Feedback/Advice

Hello Gentlemen,


I wanted to ask you guys all a favour as it were.


I’ve recently started up with the Wibble Videos again, and this one, is the format i want to start doing going forward. The Jingle, the titles, Blackadder references, a little humour but not much. All in all an effort to move away from Squidge as whilst he’s great, i want it to be my work rather than an imitation.

However, i’m still very much looking for feedback and stuff that can make it better. If you boys do have time, it’d mean a lot to get your thoughts. Its long, and goes into a lot of detail, but this is the kind of thing i want to be doing now (As i’m starting Performance Analysis MSc in Hartpury this September). So will need to do something else other than my IT Job!

Any comments, shares, feedback you can provide, it’d mean an awful lot.